Montage Deer Valley Ice Dam Solution on LEED Silver Hotel – Video Sol-Ice
Montage Deer Valley Ice Dam Solution on LEED Silver Hotel – Video Sol-Ice
The Montage Deer Valley is the top resort hotel and Sol-Ice Engineered Systems is the ice dam prevention product that was chosen by the developer Athens Development.
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The hotel is saving over $90,000 each season over the estimated cost to operate the Bylin system that the architects had specified on the job. The ownership of the hotel chose SubDynoMelt for a number of reasons including aesthetics (the system is embedded under the roofing materialsso it is invisible and in truth there is nothing more atractive that no being seen.)
Dennis and Chris at Montage
Cost to purchase (The SubDynoMelt system cost the Montage Deer Valley exactly the same as the Bylin system but it heats 5′ 6″ up the roof instead of 10″ so the coverage is over 6 times as much heated area but SubDynoMelt uses only 35 Watts per foot (that is 7 watts per square foot of heated area) of eave and the Bylin uses 48 watts (that works out to be 58.8 Watts per square foot of heated area) to heat 1/6th of the area.
Chris Piper In front of the Montage Deer Valley Ice Dam Solution
The Montage Deer Valley in the Empire Pass area of Park City Utah is above 8,000 feet above sea level. The Sol-Ice SubDynoMelt system has not had a single problem and Montage has not had a single ice dam related leak even though the roof is 220,000 square feet (probably the largest hotel above 8,000 in the world.) Sol-Ice has entered into a North American distribution agreement with Green American Home. This means the best ice dam solution in the world (which is manufactured in Park City UT) is now available in Whistler BC, Banff Alberta, Mt Tremblant Quebec, New York, Aspen Colorado, Jackson Hole Wyoming, Whitefish Montana, Sun Valley Idaho, Lake Tahoe California and any other Alpine Ski region in North America.
Contact Sol-Ice Engineered Systems of Park City Utah or Green American Homes of Piquah Ohio. We can train any roofers, plumbers, electricians, or mechanical contractors how to sell and install the system. We are looking for Authorized Installers all over North America.
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Sol-Ice Featured in an Article in The Park Record.
Chris Piper and I meet with Andrew from the Park Record a few weeks ago up at the Montage Deer Valley for an interview about the SubDynoMelt system on the Montage. It came out in yesterdays paper in and article called Ugly Cables and Roofing Aren’t Necessary
Just incase the article gets placed in the electronic archives I have copied it here for future refernce.
Ugly cables and roofing aren’t necessary
Sol-Ice Engineering prevents ice dams for a fraction of the monthly cost
by Andrew Kirk, OF THE RECORD STAFF
Posted: 01/04/2011 04:42:51 PM MST
Sol-Ice Engineering Systems, Inc. vice presidents Dennis Duce and Chris Piper show off Sol-Ice…
Dennis Duce has been roofing in the Park City area for over 15 years. In that time he’s seen a lot of ice dams and says he’s come to really understand their “anatomy.” Having a perfect understanding of what causes them, he invented a new method of prevention.
The SubDynoMelt and its sister product SubHydroMelt go underneath roof shingles instead of on top of them. This allows for more effective and energy-efficient melting along the eaves without damaging esthetics, he explained.
Unable to develop the product on his own, Duce partnered with his employer, Nielco Roofing. He is the vice president of sales and marketing for the new company, Sol-Ice Engineered Systems. Nielco is an installer of the products, as are a few other local companies, Duce explained.
SubDynoMelt uses 38 percent less electricity than its competitors on the surface of the room. Even better, he said, that amount of energy also prevents ice on five times the surface area.
Another way to explain it, he said, is that his product heats one foot of roof for 35 watts. Heat cables use 48 watts to heat nine inches.
The SubHydroMelt if connected to a home’s boiler is 90 percent more efficient than its sister product. It is uses one-tenth the electricity of its competitors, he said.
Thermal imaging also reveals both products dispense a more even layer of heat on a roof than competitors, he added.
Duce met the vice president of business development, Chris Piper, while working with him on a project.
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Piper was helping build the Montage Deer Valley and realized the plans for the roof would not prevent icicles or ice dams. He hired Nielco Roofing for help and was introduced to Duce. Even though the Sol-Ice products had only been used on one other Summit County structure at the time, Duce convinced the builders his product was the right way to go.
Piper and Duce said the product was the same or cheaper to install, cost less to operate and went under, not on, the roof.
“People weren’t happy with the status quo, but being invisible makes it a real seller,” Duce said.
The builders of the hotel were not interested in being a guinea pig, Piper said. Their acceptance of the Sol-Ice products speaks highly for its competitive edge. The products’ superior qualities are also what convinced him to join the company.
“I’ve seen a lot of properties with problems and I’ve done a lot of ‘bandages,’” Piper said. “Some products only go after icicles. I saw that while managing properties in the Sierras. We could take care of the icicles, but then in spring owners complained about it being wet behind the walls.”
The product is working wonderfully at Montage, and Sol-Ice products have been installed in several more structures since, Duce explained.
More products are under development, he added. Although SubDynoMelt generates heat, the SubHydroMelt disperses it. Temperature dispersal technology can give many benefits to a home, he said. One of the most exciting innovations is solar thermal siding. It was used in one of the 2010 Showcase of Homes exhibits.
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Ice Dams, How they Form and How to Prevent Them
I spent the day training a new Sales guy for Sol-Ice Engineered Systems. While Adrian and I where out we came across this building right next to The Montage Deer Valley. This is a perfect example of what an ice dam is and how it forms. It was through years of studying build up like this that I was able to understand how these form and then use that information to understand how to best resolve and prevent this problem.
The Problem
The Solution
I don' think this is suposed to be happening.
Also not a good sign.
The Montage Resort Deer Valley Shows the Best Way to Prevent Ice Dams
Over three years in the making the Montage Resort is finally opened and the SubDynoMelt system from Sol-Ice Engineered Systems is keeping Ice dams from forming, in fact the system is keeping all of the eaves clear. As we did the Engineering on this project we know some areas would not create full on ice dams but that they would create icicles so we installed our two piece SubDynoEdge drip edge system to help keep the eaves clear. This system is keeping the first six to eight inches clear of ice and icicles and uses 79% less energy than our biggest competitor to clear the same area on the roof eave and gutter. Our SubDynoMelt will clear the entire area including one foot inside the warm (Exterior) wall and saves 38% over the the same competitor but we are clearing 4 times the square feet of area. Please read this article about how an ice dam forms to see why it is so important to clear the entire eave. Of course if saving energy is important to you than check out how much money SubHydroMelt can save on your utilities.
So the ongoing problem of ice dams has met an end. Sol-Ice Engineered systems products deal with every aspect of ice dams. We can get rid of your winter nightmare forever “Like” Sol-Ice on Facebook and let us know what we can do to help, or go to our contact page and give us a call.
Looking down from the Penthouse on the eaves cleared by SubDynoMelt
Close up on one of the eaves with out SubDynoMelt by this area does have SubDynoEdge.
Another view of SubDynoEdge looking from the Penthouse
Well I am not sure what to say about this but we have the only product that can handle anything this tough.
Clear, clear, clear. what else can I say.
SubDynoMelt keeping the Montage roof eave clear.
Doug From Carver Energy Services doing final adjustments on the controls for the SubDynoMelt system
Notice how clear the sidewall flashing is on this picture. No other product could work this well in such a difficult location.
Okay so now you see how great SubDynoMelt is call us to get your system installed.
SubDynoMelt is getting heated up on the new Montage Resort Hotel
This project is two years in the making but we finally are seeing the system get slowly turned on as the snow starts to fall.
This area was turned on about 2 hours before this picture was take. The accumulation of snow is about 8 to 10 inches.
There is a lot of final wiring to get a project that has over 11 miles of heat cable running under the shingles. Even though our first system was installed in fall of 2008 and we have had over 15 systems operating for at least one winter this is by far the largest of all of the systems as well as the most visible. These pictures show how the system works and how attractive it is (read that as invisible).
Notice how clear this area is and there is not any visible "system" everything is concealed under the roofing and uses the roofing to help radiate the heat over the entire roof surface.
We hope to have the entire system operational by the end of next week but every day there are new section going live and starting to melt through the snow that has already started to accumulate. This system can handle the entire ice dam area from the bottom of the eave to the inside of the warm wall (exterior wall). It will also do a better job of keeping the gutters clear. All of this is done with out having to look at heat cable or having to install some strange raised eave panel over the top of your roof. The entire system is concealed under the roof which helps to protect it from the weather and keeps the look desired by both the owners and architects.
These "Window wells" are one of the hardest things to handle in snow country. There is not any other system, heat cable or other that could deal with something this hard. The SubDynoMelt system is keeping up perfectly and helps to make these areas beautiful from the balconies all winter and summer.
This is a top down view of the Porte Cochere at the Montage. The area on the right has the SubDynoMelt system operating (had been on for about 2 hours) the area on the Right has not yet had power put to the system. Notice the difference between the two eaves.